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{{InfoboxDevice|Picture=Hp-82901m-meh-quality.jpg|Release Year=1980|Manufacturer=HP|Condition=Working|Model Number=82901M|Storage=5.25" DD Floppy Disks @ ~270KiB}}
{{InfoboxDevice|Picture=Hp-82901m.jpg|Release Year=1980|Manufacturer=HP|Condition=Working|Model Number=82901M|Storage=5.25" DD Floppy Disks @ ~270KiB}}This is a dual 5.25" floppy drive for [[:Category:HP|HP]] systems from the late 1970s and early 1980s.. It's HP-IB interface and Amigo protocol makes it compatible with a large number of HP computers, for example the [[HP 9836C Technical Computer]] & [[HP 85]].
 
==Floppy Disk Drives==
The internal floppy drives are standard Shugart interface compatible drives, the example I have used Tandon TM200-2A drives. As such a drive emulator like a Gotek can be used in place of them.
 
The left drive has <code>DS0</code> set and the right <code>DS1</code> as described in the Tandon Manual<ref>Page 26 of "OEM OPERATING AND SERVICE MANUAL TMIOO-l,  TMIOO-2 DISK DRIVES 48 TRACKS PER INCH" {{Archive web|url=http://www.bitsavers.org/pdf/tandon/TM100-1_TM100-2_48TPI_Operating_and_Service_Manuals_1983.pdf|name=in the Tandon Manual}}</ref>. A Termination pack is also installed in the drive at the end of the shared cable in U2F.
[[File:Hp-82901m-drive-config.jpg|none|thumb|Controllers of floppy drives from 89201A showing jumpers and termination pack setup.]]
 
== Disk Structure ==
Double Density 5.25" disks used in the system are formatted with a LIF filesystem using 33 tracks, 16 sectors per track, and 256 bytes per sector for a total capacity of approximately 270KiB. The LIF filesystem measures usage in blocks, these disks have a total block size of 1056.[[File:525dd 16sector.png|none|thumb|HxC Disk map of floppy disk for 9836 showing 33 tracks with 16 sectors [[:File:52dd lif-formated-kfraw.zip|Disk Image Sample Files]]]]
 
 
To decode flux data from a raw image of a LIF 5.25" disk, you can use the following {{Archive web|url=https://github.com/keirf/greaseweazle|name=Greaseweazle}} diskdef to properly decode it<pre>
disk hp.lif.40dd
    cyls = 33
    heads = 2
    tracks * ibm.mfm
        id = 0
        interleave = 1
        secs = 16
        bps = 256
    end
end
</pre>''Note that sector's are 0 indexed requiring id = 0''
 
==Repairs - Modifications==
[https://caps.wiki/wiki/HP_82901M_5.25in_270K_FDD ''Caps Wiki Page'']
 
===2023-06===
*Large power supply capacitors reformed
*Standoffs for right drive repaired with epoxy after damaged in shipping
*Bearings for disk spin hub/flywheel re-lubricated after being seized
*'''FAIL''' - Discovered right floppy drive top head is bad, replacement needed
 
=== 2023-07 ===
 
* Replaced right floppy drive with Tandon TM100-2A unit from IBM
** ''Note: Replacement drive was manually calibrated for track alignment after having unrelated issues.''
 
==External Projects and Software==
*{{Archive web|url=https://www.hp9845.net/9845/projects/hpdir/|name=HPDir}}: LIF filesystem browser and tools
*{{Archive web|url=https://github.com/bug400/lifutils|name=lifutils}}: LIF filesystem browser and tools
==Related Devices==
*[[HP 9836C]]
*[[HP 98625 Disc Interface]]
== External links==
<references />
[[Category:Floppy Drive]]

Latest revision as of 19:30, 4 July 2023

HP 82901M 5.25in 270K FDD
General Info
Release Year 1980
Manufacturer HP
Condition Working
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Model Number 82901M
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This is a dual 5.25" floppy drive for HP systems from the late 1970s and early 1980s.. It's HP-IB interface and Amigo protocol makes it compatible with a large number of HP computers, for example the HP 9836C Technical Computer & HP 85.

Floppy Disk Drives

The internal floppy drives are standard Shugart interface compatible drives, the example I have used Tandon TM200-2A drives. As such a drive emulator like a Gotek can be used in place of them.

The left drive has DS0 set and the right DS1 as described in the Tandon Manual[1]. A Termination pack is also installed in the drive at the end of the shared cable in U2F.

Controllers of floppy drives from 89201A showing jumpers and termination pack setup.

Disk Structure

Double Density 5.25" disks used in the system are formatted with a LIF filesystem using 33 tracks, 16 sectors per track, and 256 bytes per sector for a total capacity of approximately 270KiB. The LIF filesystem measures usage in blocks, these disks have a total block size of 1056.

HxC Disk map of floppy disk for 9836 showing 33 tracks with 16 sectors Disk Image Sample Files


To decode flux data from a raw image of a LIF 5.25" disk, you can use the following Greaseweazle (archived) diskdef to properly decode it

disk hp.lif.40dd 
    cyls = 33
    heads = 2
    tracks * ibm.mfm 
        id = 0 
        interleave = 1 
        secs = 16
        bps = 256
    end
end

Note that sector's are 0 indexed requiring id = 0

Repairs - Modifications

Caps Wiki Page

2023-06

  • Large power supply capacitors reformed
  • Standoffs for right drive repaired with epoxy after damaged in shipping
  • Bearings for disk spin hub/flywheel re-lubricated after being seized
  • FAIL - Discovered right floppy drive top head is bad, replacement needed

2023-07

  • Replaced right floppy drive with Tandon TM100-2A unit from IBM
    • Note: Replacement drive was manually calibrated for track alignment after having unrelated issues.

External Projects and Software

Related Devices

External links

  1. ↑ Page 26 of "OEM OPERATING AND SERVICE MANUAL TMIOO-l, TMIOO-2 DISK DRIVES 48 TRACKS PER INCH" in the Tandon Manual (archived)
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